This again, eh?

Originally posted by e-dood:

This again, eh?

lets run it back

Originally posted by Nolan:

you need to spend upwards of $1,000 USD just to accumulate enough UR dust to craft the necessary cards.

Luck issue.

Originally posted by Juno Brier:

Originally posted by Nolan:

you need to spend upwards of $1,000 USD just to accumulate enough UR dust to craft the necessary cards.

Luck issue.

Gold rank player spotted

Originally posted by Nolan:

Originally posted by e-dood:

This again, eh?

lets run it back

Originally posted by Nolan:

Originally posted by Juno Brier:

Luck issue.

Gold rank player spotted

Originally posted by Nolan:

Originally posted by Astrallight:

You assume alot but trolling is your only way out of those arguments. Also when did you last time read a book. If you cant read these kind of long posts without getting hard triggered then i wonder how you did in school when you had to read 5 chapters until next lesson and write what happend.

fiend smith snake eye user spotted

Same thread, different flavor

Originally posted by Nolan:

Originally posted by Juno Brier:

Luck issue.

Gold rank player spotted

Care to take a picture and show your rank ?

I'm debating even responding to this thread, which is the exact same complaint covering the exact same points made by the exact same user something like 2-3 months ago. My answer's remained unchanged since then, but to recap:

1.) You do not have to play Meta in order to play the game, but you do need to use the correct kinds of staples to compete with the modern game. This means handtraps and boardbreakers, and your personal refusal to use objectively good cards is a handicap you willingly apply to yourself.

2.) There are presently 8 Teired meta decks ranging from Tenpai (Blind-second OTK) to Snake-Eye Fiendsmith (High-recursion Grind). In addition there are some 13 decks lingering in "Rogue" status that are more than capable of competing with the meta picks even if they've not topped an event to become tiered, including now-aging builds of Kashtiera, Tearlament, Labrynth, and Branded. So the claim that there's only two or three decks you can play is factually untrue no matter how twisted your perspective is.

3.) Master Duel has been and continues to be the most generous platform you can play a TCG on that isn't outright free. Any deck, no matter how expensive, is able to be built in the span of two months at most with the minimal effort of completing your dailies each day and participating in events. The only reason to spend money at all is out of impatience or for time-limited cosmetics, the latter of which is a rare occurrence.

4.) I am a F2P player myself that regularly pilots Blue-Eyes of all things to victories against a range of meta-contenders in ranked matches, possesses 10 other decks of varying degrees of competitive viability with a number of UR-expensive engines and staples I'm not presently using, and am firmly outside of the demographic you claim would be the only ones disagreeing with you. My existence as a player alone disproves your claims, all of them.

Originally posted by Silyon:

I'm debating even responding to this thread, which is the exact same complaint covering the exact same points made by the exact same user something like 2-3 months ago. My answer's remained unchanged since then, but to recap:

1.) You do not have to play Meta in order to play the game, but you do need to use the correct kinds of staples to compete with the modern game. This means handtraps and boardbreakers, and your personal refusal to use objectively good cards is a handicap you willingly apply to yourself.

2.) There are presently 8 Teired meta decks ranging from Tenpai (Blind-second OTK) to Snake-Eye Fiendsmith (High-recursion Grind). In addition there are some 13 decks lingering in "Rogue" status that are more than capable of competing with the meta picks even if they've not topped an event to become tiered, including now-aging builds of Kashtiera, Tearlament, Labrynth, and Branded. So the claim that there's only two or three decks you can play is factually untrue no matter how twisted your perspective is.

3.) Master Duel has been and continues to be the most generous platform you can play a TCG on that isn't outright free. Any deck, no matter how expensive, is able to be built in the span of two months at most with the minimal effort of completing your dailies each day and participating in events. The only reason to spend money at all is out of impatience or for time-limited cosmetics, the latter of which is a rare occurrence.

4.) I am a F2P player myself that regularly pilots Blue-Eyes of all things to victories against a range of meta-contenders in ranked matches, possesses 10 other decks of varying degrees of competitive viability with a number of UR-expensive engines and staples I'm not presently using, and am firmly outside of the demographic you claim would be the only ones disagreeing with you. My existence as a player alone disproves your claims, all of them.

It was last week. He is just starting fights all over again, I made the mistake of trying to take him seriously at first last time, and all he did was begin to insult and harass people and not even 3 comments in, he's doing it all over again. It's best to just block and ignore his bait

Originally posted by Nolan:

It’s impossible to compete unless you’re running the exact same deck as everyone else. The barrier to entry is staggering—you need to spend upwards of $1,000 USD just to accumulate enough UR dust to craft the necessary cards. Even then, there's no guarantee you'll have everything you need to stay viable.

The result? A stale, repetitive meta where only one or two dominant decks exist, built around the same predictable combos. There’s no room for creativity, no real enjoyment—just a relentless cycle of copy-paste strategies. It’s less about a love for the game and more about keeping up with an arms race dictated by the latest tier list.

And the only people who will be upset at this criticism? The ones who have already sunk months’ worth of income into maintaining these decks, unwilling to admit that the system itself is flawed.

Master Duel is a OCG for masochists.
It's not fun. The meta makes sure sweaty stinky nolife tryhards pop your cards before you ever get your engine going.

You can be a good player with a consistent deck and just have a bricked hand. You could be running archtypes you like and get destroyed a by a majority of these middle aged nerdatron 5000's who only run meta decks computing at 60 million brainpower.
Ain't no kids playing modern Yu GI Oh.

Skill has nothing to do with it. It's all decided by busted monster effects nowadays. People wanna defend the meta. Stop defending it. It sucks. Players won't admit that it sucks. Just admit it already.

If a card game revolves around you not being allowed to play it, then your card game is "broken." Try and prove me wrong. I know you can't.

Master Duel pools all of this stink to the surface. There are cards you will absolutely need to compete.

You think I wanted clones of Maxx C? Harpie's Feather Duster? Ash Blossom and Joyous Spring? Lightning Storm? Called By The Grave? Forbidden Droplet ect? The meta is such a mess that you need these cards in every deck you make. The whole game is meta odds and ends.

And Konami doesn't understand the importance of these odds and ends. Most of the cards you need are gonna be UR anyway. None of you can and will ever prove me wrong on that.

Simple structure decks will never cut it in Master Duel's meta. Enough said. If you still defend all this after I spoke a prophet's truth, then just stop talking.

That's what I would say to people who disagree with you, Nolan. They don't care, man. They love Master Duel.

https://youtu.be/iyps2nepsEQ?si=p2IKNEejT9I6T6o8

Originally posted by Juno Brier:

Originally posted by Nolan:

you need to spend upwards of $1,000 USD just to accumulate enough UR dust to craft the necessary cards.

Luck issue.

I'll own up to that, I have no luck with random pulls/gacha mechanics, which is another reason the glacial pace of card acquisition in this game compared to prior titles is such a glaring flaw to me.

When the P2W comes back with the same topic for whatever reason, you wanna sink your time playing the same meta deck as everybody else then that's on you but others are still somehow able never touching meta decks and making it to Master 1 just fine

Originally posted by ManOfCulture:

Originally posted by Nolan:

It’s impossible to compete unless you’re running the exact same deck as everyone else. The barrier to entry is staggering—you need to spend upwards of $1,000 USD just to accumulate enough UR dust to craft the necessary cards. Even then, there's no guarantee you'll have everything you need to stay viable.

The result? A stale, repetitive meta where only one or two dominant decks exist, built around the same predictable combos. There’s no room for creativity, no real enjoyment—just a relentless cycle of copy-paste strategies. It’s less about a love for the game and more about keeping up with an arms race dictated by the latest tier list.

And the only people who will be upset at this criticism? The ones who have already sunk months’ worth of income into maintaining these decks, unwilling to admit that the system itself is flawed.

Master Duel is a OCG for masochists.
It's not fun. The meta makes sure sweaty stinky nolife tryhards pop your cards before you ever get your engine going.

You can be a good player with a consistent deck and just have a bricked hand. You could be running archtypes you like and get destroyed a by a majority of these middle aged nerdatron 5000's who only run meta decks computing at 60 million brainpower.
Ain't no kids playing modern Yu GI Oh.

Skill has nothing to do with it. It's all decided by busted monster effects nowadays. People wanna defend the meta. Stop defending it. It sucks. Players won't admit that it sucks. Just admit it already.

If a card game revolves around you not being allowed to play it, then your card game is "broken." Try and prove me wrong. I know you can't.

Master Duel pools all of this stink to the surface. There are cards you will absolutely need to compete.

You think I wanted clones of Maxx C? Harpie's Feather Duster? Ash Blossom and Joyous Spring? Lightning Storm? Called By The Grave? Forbidden Droplet ect? The meta is such a mess that you need these cards in every deck you make. The whole game is meta odds and ends.

And Konami doesn't understand the importance of these odds and ends. Most of the cards you need are gonna be UR anyway. None of you can and will ever prove me wrong on that.

Simple structure decks will never cut it in Master Duel's meta. Enough said. If you still defend all this after I spoke a prophet's truth, then just stop talking.

That's what I would say to people who disagree with you, Nolan. They don't care, man. They love Master Duel.

Then why are u guys even here??? Seriously why? U don't like Yugioh, & if u are returning from 2002/2003 then I got news for u; U NEVER LIKED THIS GAME. U just liked spiky anime hair and cool looking monsters. U never cared about the game aspect. U only like its aesthetics.

Originally posted by itzRiceKrispies:

Originally posted by ManOfCulture:

Master Duel is a OCG for masochists.
It's not fun. The meta makes sure sweaty stinky nolife tryhards pop your cards before you ever get your engine going.

You can be a good player with a consistent deck and just have a bricked hand. You could be running archtypes you like and get destroyed a by a majority of these middle aged nerdatron 5000's who only run meta decks computing at 60 million brainpower.
Ain't no kids playing modern Yu GI Oh.

Skill has nothing to do with it. It's all decided by busted monster effects nowadays. People wanna defend the meta. Stop defending it. It sucks. Players won't admit that it sucks. Just admit it already.

If a card game revolves around you not being allowed to play it, then your card game is "broken." Try and prove me wrong. I know you can't.

Master Duel pools all of this stink to the surface. There are cards you will absolutely need to compete.

You think I wanted clones of Maxx C? Harpie's Feather Duster? Ash Blossom and Joyous Spring? Lightning Storm? Called By The Grave? Forbidden Droplet ect? The meta is such a mess that you need these cards in every deck you make. The whole game is meta odds and ends.

And Konami doesn't understand the importance of these odds and ends. Most of the cards you need are gonna be UR anyway. None of you can and will ever prove me wrong on that.

Simple structure decks will never cut it in Master Duel's meta. Enough said. If you still defend all this after I spoke a prophet's truth, then just stop talking.

That's what I would say to people who disagree with you, Nolan. They don't care, man. They love Master Duel.

Then why are u guys even here??? Seriously why? U don't like Yugioh, & if u are returning from 2002/2003 then I got news for u; U NEVER LIKED THIS GAME. U just liked spiky anime hair and cool looking monsters. U never cared about the game aspect. U only like its aesthetics.

True if you don’t like the game state don’t play it there are plenty of other tcgs you can get into. I have a feeling wherever you go your gonna eventually complain the same way as all tcgs are dominated by meta and staples so this “creativity” you want so bad is not gonna be there. Maybe just don’t play tcgs if you don’t enjoy them seems like a easy solution stop preaching this same story no one wants to hear.

Originally posted by ★Koin-Flipッ:

Originally posted by itzRiceKrispies:

Then why are u guys even here??? Seriously why? U don't like Yugioh, & if u are returning from 2002/2003 then I got news for u; U NEVER LIKED THIS GAME. U just liked spiky anime hair and cool looking monsters. U never cared about the game aspect. U only like its aesthetics.

True if you don’t like the game state don’t play it there are plenty of other tcgs you can get into. I have a feeling wherever you go your gonna eventually complain the same way as all tcgs are dominated by meta and staples so this “creativity” you want so bad is not gonna be there. Maybe just don’t play tcgs if you don’t enjoy them seems like a easy solution stop preaching this same story no one wants to hear. :luv:

Of course you don't want to hear it.
The truth is there though.

Originally posted by ManOfCulture:

Originally posted by ★Koin-Flipッ:

True if you don’t like the game state don’t play it there are plenty of other tcgs you can get into. I have a feeling wherever you go your gonna eventually complain the same way as all tcgs are dominated by meta and staples so this “creativity” you want so bad is not gonna be there. Maybe just don’t play tcgs if you don’t enjoy them seems like a easy solution stop preaching this same story no one wants to hear.

Of course you don't want to hear it.
The truth is there though.

Every tcg you play will have this issue it’s not that “I don’t wanna hear it and I just don’t get it from your prospective” I feel like your not comprehending your ears and eyes are closed to any argument or thought that doesn’t originate from your skull. So much so that you have some cringe thing about “being done with steam discussions” probably because you just type you don’t listen to anyone else’s opinion. We don’t work for Konami we don’t wanna hear it this isn’t the game u played as a kid your a grown adult stop complaining thanks.