I hear the horde in the distance approaching…

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I mean, Moon is cute and a adorable character, but when it comes to her design, she was left in the junk a whole part of it, Moon is a rain world version of the princess who needs saving, she doesn't get her part on the game story and gameplay, so she's basically just a cute and adorable character, there's other iterators who are not even in the game and can be more interesting then her by a whole lot, so I agree with you.

:(

No more pearl reading for you

yah bbu..t..... blkue.. wayter

1/10 ragebait

Bait used to be believable

Common guys, the truth is, we all know Pebbles deserved everything that happened to him lol

Moon is cool, a bit of a shame downpour removed most of her arrogant personality and made her into a polite cute doll while making pebbles into a mean teenager. Literally reversed their roles for the sake of fanficting lmao

Either way, bait used to be believable

Originally posted by Schwadler:

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I mean, Moon is cute and a adorable character, but when it comes to her design, she was left in the junk a whole part of it, Moon is a rain world version of the princess who needs saving, she doesn't get her part on the game story and gameplay, so she's basically just a cute and adorable character, there's other iterators who are not even in the game and can be more interesting then her by a whole lot, so I agree with you.

Moon is an old and methodogical individual who focuses a lot on results and science, determining stuff she cant explain to be halucinations or horror stories for stuff like karma flowers and echoes.

Despite her cripple state she is considerably arrogant, enough to consent very little from the player, ignoring you forever if you do not respect here (unless you play downpour where most of her personality traits are disabled and she cant get angry at you so she is a polite and cute doll) She talks about herself with grandeur and looks with resentment to her creators very openly.

Pebbs on the other side is a younger and more experimental individual, more open minded to experiment unusual ideas and less stuck on the past and not wasting time hating his creators, this experimentation and young nature makes him more unpredictable but also less hardheaded like moon is.

These are the only 2 iterators who exist, the rest pale in comparasion with barely 3 entries each, some even appearing a single time in a line of text.
SRS is pebbles mentor and NSH is somewhat of a "laughting best medicine" guy, the rest dont even appear enough to get a grasp of who they really are.

Unless you play downpour where they are both basically identical and act like worried teenagers who saw their classmate break up with a girl or something like that, gossiping all arround and turning the very few lines they had in vanilla into their entire personality.

Originally posted by Jevmen:

Moon is an old and methodogical individual who focuses a lot on results and science, determining stuff she cant explain to be halucinations or horror stories for stuff like karma flowers and echoes.

Despite her cripple state she is considerably arrogant, enough to consent very little from the player, ignoring you forever if you do not respect here (unless you play downpour where most of her personality traits are disabled and she cant get angry at you so she is a polite and cute doll) She talks about herself with grandeur and looks with resentment to her creators very openly.

Considering what her kindess and tolerance is what caused her demise as she was too polite and waited for too long to finally use force communication - it's no surprised she wished to be respected when she was brought back to life.

She can't even defend herself anymore if someone snatch her neuron or beat her with a rock or spear in her current state. While back before collapse she would simply use shield to prevent slugcats doing harm to her puppet.
And depite all of crap and harm done to her she is very forgiving unlike 5P, where if you annoy him or do anything funny he always gonna keep killing you for rest of the game.

Moon has all rights for wishing to be respected, She doesn't wanted to be treated the same way she was in past, but doesn't abadoning her principals of kindness and tolerance either.

Originally posted by Jevmen:

Despite her cripple state she is considerably arrogant, enough to consent very little from the player, ignoring you forever if you do not respect here (unless you play downpour where most of her personality traits are disabled and she cant get angry at you so she is a polite and cute doll) She talks about herself with grandeur and looks with resentment to her creators very openly.

Wait really!?

Originally posted by Justice:

Originally posted by Jevmen:

Moon is an old and methodogical individual who focuses a lot on results and science, determining stuff she cant explain to be halucinations or horror stories for stuff like karma flowers and echoes.

Despite her cripple state she is considerably arrogant, enough to consent very little from the player, ignoring you forever if you do not respect here (unless you play downpour where most of her personality traits are disabled and she cant get angry at you so she is a polite and cute doll) She talks about herself with grandeur and looks with resentment to her creators very openly.

Considering what her kindess and tolerance is what caused her demise as she was too polite and waited for too long to finally use force communication - it's no surprised she wished to be respected when she was brought back to life.

She can't even defend herself anymore if someone snatch her neuron or beat her with a rock or spear in her current state. While back before collapse she would simply use shield to prevent slugcats doing harm to her puppet.
And depite all of crap and harm done to her she is very forgiving unlike 5P, where if you annoy him or do anything funny he always gonna keep killing you for rest of the game.

Moon has all rights for wishing to be respected, She doesn't wanted to be treated the same way she was in past, but doesn't abadoning her principals of kindness and tolerance either.

I don’t think that person is arguing that though. I think it’s more that downpour took that away. She knows she deserves respect in Vanilla, her dialogue is sort of clear cut, so much so that on my first playthrough I liked Pebbles more because he was more “polite”. Moon in downpour is a lot less of that and essentially lets you beat her up with minimum protest, which is a change that I also dislike. The argument is not whether or not she deserves respect, which she does by the way, but simply that she seems to not care about it anymore in the DLC.

Originally posted by Bee:

Originally posted by Justice:

Considering what her kindess and tolerance is what caused her demise as she was too polite and waited for too long to finally use force communication - it's no surprised she wished to be respected when she was brought back to life.

She can't even defend herself anymore if someone snatch her neuron or beat her with a rock or spear in her current state. While back before collapse she would simply use shield to prevent slugcats doing harm to her puppet.
And depite all of crap and harm done to her she is very forgiving unlike 5P, where if you annoy him or do anything funny he always gonna keep killing you for rest of the game.

Moon has all rights for wishing to be respected, She doesn't wanted to be treated the same way she was in past, but doesn't abadoning her principals of kindness and tolerance either.

I don’t think that person is arguing that though. I think it’s more that downpour took that away. She knows she deserves respect in Vanilla, her dialogue is sort of clear cut, so much so that on my first playthrough I liked Pebbles more because he was more “polite”. Moon in downpour is a lot less of that and essentially lets you beat her up with minimum protest, which is a change that I also dislike. The argument is not whether or not she deserves respect, which she does by the way, but simply that she seems to not care about it anymore in the DLC.

Even in context of vanilla rain world it would still upholded. In her fallen state, where she can't do nothing and can't defend herself. You can't blame her getting upset if player grab one of her last 5 neurons she has or eat it. And what's wrong for her wishing for player to behave around her? She makes multiple warnings and if players keep ignoring it and being rude - that's on them.

jfc the downpour characterisation of EVERYONE just. HRRRGHRGHF im ripping my hair out how do you even MANAGE to make an entire dlc based around the iterators while not actually understanding the characters of the iterators at all??? moon and pebbles were watered down to "the nice selfless one" and "the smug egotistical one" respectively and that isnt even anything like their characters in vanilla it just ouughru it pisses me off so badly
do not even get me ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ started on seven red suns.
characters have layers to them and so do actual, real life people! but a majority of the community just apparently cant accept that, characters have to only act in a certain way or something. empathy is required to understand the story do you guys understand