Don't mind the jester awards b/c the joke is on them: I like those Steam points regardless of the source! Those dummies are rewarding people but thinking they're insulting them! LOL

-rep

I only repost because of dumb jester spam harassment. Valve is 100% in the wrong to ban, i am not the problem for *existing* bud.

free palestine

free palestine you coward repost your comment

you're the problem not valve they did the right thing to ban you. May god have mercy on you

irony

This is literally how the Japanese, and Nazis, justified everything they did, they say the other side is evil because (insert grievances) Because it's much easier to make someone else look bad than to actually be a force of good, and it's really easy to smear literally any country because all countries have done something bad at one point or another, or had people in said country do bad things, but you don't have to mention that it's true for literally every country. It's typical propaganda hate speech.

By your logic America is being colonized and genocided by Mexico because Mexicans. Also Isreal has plenty of Palestinians living inside it's actual state with equal rights, the same is not true for gays women etc. in Palestine or Arabic countries.


Also all you are doing is saying "these people evil because of (X cherry picked thing) like you could do that to say the Allies during WW2 are evil.

I don't have to be Jewish to believe in self determination, or to not want to repeat the holocaust and support Hitler. I don't know why you would rather push Nazi propaganda rather than just leave Jewish people and Israel alone.

Israel aren't terrorists for defending themselves against terrorists, Israel isn't doing anything the Western nations during the War on Terror haven't done it's just it's genocide when they do it because hating jews is ok, apparently. You're posting anti-Israel propaganda nothing but falsehoods, like "using settlers to push families off their land" yeah there is nobody that settles without the consent of the government *eyeroll*

"Free Israel from the lake to the sea." Just move there and convert to Judaism.

You flying the flag of a foreign nation is as weird as it gets. Try using the cross. Try that.

I could have guessed you were a Baptist. Israel are the terrorists. They use settlers to push families off their land. They use bulldozers to kill American protesters. They force people to stay in their homes and never leave. They harass and attack innocent Palestians, who have come to realize they're going to all be killed and lose their land unless they fight back. That's the reality of it. It's not a debate. This is what's going on.

Israel is defending themselves against terrorists. As for what denomination, i'm a Baptist.

Chaffy, what denom of Christian are you? You're not Orthodox. That's for sure.

"I can 100% be a christian and not support the holocaust 2.0" There is no holocaust unless you're talking about how the Jews are committing genocide.

Yeah gray matter is right. The only exception is Buddhism and Confucianism, since it's more of a philosophy about life, and both Buddha and Confucias didn't claim to be divine themselves.

@disonansas (and everyone else reading along) - btw, I'm very blunt in my writing, so please don't think I have a negative/rude tone in my comments. I'm really not trying to be an ass to anyone... just stating opinions and facts is all. ;)

ChaffyExpert said it better than I did

@disonansas - b/c the Bible clearly states that every Word in the Bible is the Living Word of God. That is the exact opposite of being "man made". Saying "man made" is a nice way of saying "fiction".
Did humans physically write the Bible? Yes, but as the Bible states, it was inspired directly by God. That is not the equivalent to being "man made" like a Richard Dawkins book. I'm pretty sure the Quran and Torah say similar things about their holy texts too. Regardless, it is an attack on religion to say it's only "man made" as it's discrediting the divinity of that book / religion and relegating it simply to a piece of work by man only.

I never called you an atheist, I said the statement "religion is man made" is an atheist's opinion (I should have used the word "argument" instead); in other words, atheists use that phrase all the time, but yeah, anyone can use it too, atheist or not. ;)

You said that religion is manmade, so you are asserting religion is made by humans IE not true, and because you're asserting that religion is false you aren't agnostic (agnostics just say you can't know either way)

Saying religion is manmade is inherently saying it's false in the case of abrahamic religions. because they assert they aren't manmade.

Buddhism and such is a different story, you can assert they are manmade because the philosophy of said religions is created by a person and adherents of said religion say as much.

So unless you are a buddhist or confuciasit it's safe to say you are an atheist. And even if that is the case, your statement is basically saying Christianity is false. Because Christianity asserts it is NOT man-made religion.

"No, that's just an atheist's opinion."
Yet, I'm not an atheist What's with those terms flying around loosely

"Everyone is religious in some form"
That seems even more pushy though, doesn't it? Because on technical terms it is a claim overlooking our human individuality

Also, I never saw anyone trying to discredit religion by stating that it is man made, quite the opposite, I've met religious and semi-religious people that do not have any problem with this statement, and / or recognize it themselves

I am semi-religious (or whatever you want to call it, I don't like this terminology and pinpoint categorization of human views / beliefs so it does not matter to me) myself, and I see nothing wrong with the "man made wonder" statement, never even thought about it discrediting religion in some way xD

Also Drunk Bear, i'm mad at Valve, because they have the worst moderation and ban system, Deadlock is a fine game, there's issues but it's early alpha so i can overlook issues like people getting stuck in walls (it's actually pretty funny tbh). Valve is the one that decided to so authoritarian when it comes to banning that it makes Hitler look like a saint.

@GrayMatterGuerilla You are 100% and this is the main problem i have with atheists, it's not that they aren't christian, it's that they want to attack and wipe christians off the map (in addition to other religions but let's be real christianity is who they are primarily after) while at the same time complaining about "bigoted religious fanatics" Everything about atheism seems to be pretty hypocritical and doubled standard to suit themselves.

I am not convinced the steam charts is anything unusual, Crusader Kings, Europa Universalis, Hearts of Iron 4 Stellaris etc. all have a spike up at launch and every DLC then drop down again, yet these games certainly aren't dead because they have a stable fanbase. But banning people for a day for leaving for 10 minutes for IRL reasons isn't going to help Deadlock remain a playerbase lmao.

"Religion, after all, is a man made wonder" - Disonansas
No, that's just an atheist's opinion.
One can easily argue that atheism is a man-made religion. The argument that "atheism isn't a religion" is bunk b/c it too relies on faith - faith that no God, gods or supernatural power exists.
Everyone is religious in some form b/c there is a meta-physical aspect to this life that science cannot explain nor measure or quantify. Atheists just don't like to admit that they too have as much faith in their beliefs as a Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Christian, Agnostic, etc.
On the subject of people pushing religion: that's exactly what atheists do by claiming all religions are man-made. It's to discredit every religion except their own belief of atheism.
No one believes in something, atheist or theist, because they think it's 2nd best.

How are we feeling about Deadlock now after the 1 day game ban and the forum ban? Still think the Steam charts mean nothing? XD

Which is why it's making me sad and upset, that religion as a whole was used so heavily for personal gains and agendas, twisted and mangled to benefit the person / people behind it.
Also people that push the "my religion = truth, your religion = fake, you HERETIC / HEATHEN"
narrative.

Unfortunately, nobody in history has given religion it's current name more, than religious people themselves, which is just sad, but also natural, we are human beings after all, not perfect in any way, shape or form

Anyways, I think it's not really "propaganda" you're talking about, obviously discrimination is not the way to go, but you have to understand that religion as a whole, probably brought more tragedy to humanity than it did any good, unfortunately.

It's sad, and I wish people were more open-minded towards arguments and ideas that contradict their current ones, at least taking them into consideration before rejecting them
But that's just wishful thinking

Religion, after all, is a man made wonder, we as humans need a more complex reason to live than just "survival", which is not a bad thing at all on it's own.

However, people tend to use anything they can to benefit their own situation, or to push an agenda, and religion has been the #1 tool used for that, for basically it's entire existence.

I like the general topic of religion, the most interesting aspect of it, to me, is the different religions (and branches of the same one, for example sunni / shia / ibadi islam, or all the branches of christianity) that sprung up in different parts of the world, under different circumstances, unique worldviews and philosophies that are very interesting, at least for me.

I am roman catholic "by birth", but neither me or my family was strict about it, I was always open to learning more about other cultures and the religions that come with them

As said before, it's anti-christian propaganda. Just like how the Nazi's tried to justify their actions. Other religions are lumped in, such as Muslims, because it makes the cherry picking the bad stuff easier, but considering how 100% of these people act like buddhism and eastern religions are fine it's just the "western" ones that are bad, it's clear it's anti-christian specifically.

In reality, if they looked at history, you could point towards Japan killing their own for being christian, or the Boxar Rebellion that killed any chinese that were christian in addition to Europeans in the name of Chinese nationalism and anti-colonialism.

Atheists, but it's really the left in general, are just trying to justify hatred towards X group under the guise of "equality" and "anti-colonialism" or whatever else, when in reality, they are just spreading hate speech against christians.

Basically, any time a Jew Muslim Shinto Confucist buddhist atheist etc. does something, it's fine, but if the christian does the same thing it's "evil". This seems to be what the left does alot, for example saying Israel is an evil colonial state because europeans migrated (but they are actually jews not europeans) to their own homeland, that arabs took to begin with, yet arabs taking it is fine. And at the same time, there isn't an issue with Mexicans migrating into the US or Muslims into Europe, but white people settling in North America is evil.

Atheists do the same thing, they cherry pick parts of history that fit their narrative and ignore the rest or try to argue semantically that it's "not *because* of atheism" even though being against religion was a driving force and point for socialists and communists.

No religion has a bad name because of cringe reddit athiests re-interpreting history by cherry picking it, to push their anti-christ narrative.

The Crusades for example, are given a bad rep, which is only partially deserved- because yes it was brutal, but so was *all* wars at the time, and the Crusades specifically were a reaction to Muslim aggression

Religion has been given a bad name - sometimes it's deserved, often it's not - but I think Chaffy is getting at atheists who will point out the speck in the eye of others but ignore the log in their own. i.e. Stalin/Mao (and plenty more) who were atheist and enforced an atheist/secular lifestyle upon everyone.... it was far from pleasant and certainly wasn't the 'utopia' that those atheistic marxists said it would be. ;)

Maybe you were just joking, I don't get the gig sometimes so it could be on me

"reddit atheist propagandists" That's a new one, chaffy

So... religion has had a bad name for the past thousands of years because of... redditors?

Religion has a bad name because of reddit atheist propagandists like you and nothing more ignoring Stalin Mao etc. That's literally it. And i said "chosen people" in the context of the Abraham religions when talking about theology. Nobody said "they are chosen people so they are superior to everyone else and should invade everyone" It's chosen people in regards to theology. And i don't see anything wrong with that belief, like it really doesn't matter what you think people can believe what they want.

Thank you for your answer GMG

@disonansas - also, you're right about people and their pride/ego in relation to someone thinking they're better than everyone. No one should behave that way and it's absolutely wrong for a Christian (or Jew) to believe he/she is superior.

@disonansas - Deuteronomy 7:6 clearly states there is a 'chosen people', but the debate is who that is.
Taking the Bible in it's entirety, as it should be taken, points to a particular group of people today (i.e. followers of Jesus).
I'd post a link w/ more info but Steam loves to censor links (or entire messages) related to the Bible/Jesus. Can go to ( gotquestions . org ) and search "Jews saved". First article is the winner ("Are Jews saved b/c they are God's chosen people?").

No people are the "chosen ones", the delusional throwing of this statement should be stopped, but as long as people filled with pride and ego exist (always will), it will continue to be used.

This delusion of being "chosen" has always been provocative in it's nature, everything has a reason, a root, even hatred, and feeling resentment towards someone that for some borderline schizo reason thinks of himself superior to you, is more than natural in our species.

Ceasing to keep giving religion the same bad name it has been getting for the past hundreds, even thousands of years would seem like a smart thing to do, but apparently many cannot resist the urge to dig an even deeper grave for the entire concept of religion itself.

I can 100% be a christian and not support the holocaust 2.0

God's chosen people are Christians, not Jews. Read the Bible.

You cannot be a Christian and a Zionist.

Sorry for spamming your wall. I had to edit that a few times to make sense.

The Chosen People is an interesting subject. I don't believe they were claimed by God to be His 'Chosen People' b/c they were Jews, but b/c they were the only group of people that believed in God. Everyone else was either a pagan, nature worshiper, atheist, etc. (i.e. rejected God).
John 14:6, "Jesus said unto him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me. ""
And Matthew 10:32-33, "Therefore whoever confesses Me [Jesus] before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven. But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father [God] who is in heaven."
If anyone denies Jesus, be it pagan, atheist or Jew, then they also deny God. The Bible is clear on that. Since Jesus' sacrifice, I'm not sure how a group can deny Jesus (i.e. God) and still be His Chosen People today?

Lmao Jesus was a Jew. And you can't be a Christian and hate god's chosen people and think they should be wiped out and driven from their own homeland.

You can't be Christian and a zionist. Jews hate Jesus and spit on Christians.

Nah nah nah nah hey hey-ey goodbye!

hooray mr. pedophile and his pedophile-and-cocaine-addicted son are out of the WH

Yep, despite all the left's lies and cheating, somehow Trump returned.